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« on: November 15, 2007, 02:58:35 am » |
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Today on Gamespot there is article on a possible new DS model coming with bigger screens and on-board storage. If this ends up happening I would like to get it because of the bigger screens. I want to have something other then the orginal DS. http://www.gamespot.com/news/6182879.html?...estnews;title;0
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2007, 03:39:32 am » |
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That's crap man. One of my biggest problems with Nintendo is that they keep upgrading their hand-helds after millions of people bought them. If it wasn't for a majority of my original DS's buttons being broken, I wouldn't have even bought a DS Lite.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2007, 03:48:34 am » |
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Well, I'm glad they continue to improve themselves.. but it is pretty annoying to think you have the latest and greatest and then be .. wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2007, 03:54:40 am » |
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Gah, that's exactly what I'd want if I could...but I still have my DS-original, and of course my DS-lite. I guess I could take back the original and get the larger one too....but it'd have to take something really good to get me to do it. Right now there aren't many games at all for DS that I want that I don't already have.
In a way though, I don't think I believe it. Nintendo has lately been trimming things down, not making them bigger. DS-lite has been selling very well on its own, and even sold out in the US earlier this year, AND it sold out in Japan repeatedly for a very long time.
Not to mention on-board storage makes no sense. The cards have save-data on them......there's no need for on-board storage, unless he means for accessories or extra-games or something. Or for that matter, maybe they mean to use it as a permanent-storage for that Gameboy-Virtual-Console that's rumored to come out. Maybe one version uses an SD-card adapter for the GBA port(for the two 'older' DS systems), and the other just transfers via Wifi? On it's own, aside from THAT possibility, losing the GBA-port ALMOST makes sense...although that would mean a big change to the Main Menu System, which I almost can't see them doing. It really sucked to see GB-Micro losing GB and GBC support tho', I'd kind of hate to lose it for DS too, especially since I got rid of my GB-Player for my GCN.
OH, and although the thought of the possible GB-VC kind of swayed me to almost believing it....one of Nintendo's new games in Japan uses the GBA-port. Not for the Rumble Pak, or the DS Opera-Browser(which both COULD be shifted out if it had on-board versions of at LEAST the extra storage space), but it's a little scooting thing that gives a small amount of motion(scoot) control over the DS. I can't say that it was a big hit or anything, but I'm pretty sure it was 1st Party...I doubt they'd throw that away too.
I dunno. This is an analyst after all.....for all we know, their contacts could just be other analysts or someone just day-dreaming up what they want.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2007, 04:10:16 am » |
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OH, and although the thought of the possible GB-VC kind of swayed me to almost believing it....one of Nintendo's new games in Japan uses the GBA-port. Not for the Rumble Pak, or the DS Opera-Browser(which both COULD be shifted out if it had on-board versions of at LEAST the extra storage space), but it's a little scooting thing that gives a small amount of motion(scoot) control over the DS. I can't say that it was a big hit or anything, but I'm pretty sure it was 1st Party...I doubt they'd throw that away too.
Just one little nitpick (I generally agreed with the rest). e-reader.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2007, 05:00:45 am » |
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Yeahhhh, that's true. Maybe it did well in Japan, but who knows(I kind of doubt it doing well there either).
Oh. And there's the transfering-from-GBA-Pokemon-games to Diamond and Pearl...unless they'd just rely on the Wifi service after that(but if you haven't seen the Pokemon, you can't transfer it...)
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2007, 11:31:35 pm » |
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lol...then just don't buy it xD
If you do buy it though...then, what's to hate. Nintendo milked you for a ds: grandpa edition. You should hate yourself, it's a brilliant marketing scheme.
Umm...personally, I think I won't buy it. Nintendo has been sucking some huge air recently. With the release of galaxy, bwii, and phantom hourglass they've kinda made up for their craptastic negligence of release "games" and not brain training or visual training software...-_-
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2007, 01:29:19 am » |
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No GBA Port?  I stopped reading right after that. Unless it's a really low price, it will ultimately fail without a GBA port. Really, if even the first DS is playable, then with the options between the DS, the DS Lite, and the DS "Improved", the DS "Improved" will lose. I don't think the GBA Micro had good sales. Actually, according to Wikipedia: Nintendo itself has admitted that Game Boy Micro sales did not meet its expectations, commenting it "failed to explain to consumers its unique value." What ways could the GBA micro have failed? Only two ideas come to mind. - No closing screen, unlike the GBA SP; lack of screen protection. My friend's GBA (Original) had it's screen screwed up one day because it was in his pocket. If this had been a GBA SP, then whatever happened to the GBA's screen would have happened to the GBA SP's exterior and not it's screen. The GBA Micro's screen is just as exposed as the GBA Original's. So... yeah.
- No backtracking. The time the GBA Micro was released some GBC and GB games were still liked. No backtracking. This point however, I'll work with.
If the GBA Micro may have failed because of no backtracking, then think about this. The amount of worthwhile GBA games nowadays, compared to the amount of worthwhile GBC/GB games back then, is a very large difference. I wouldn't doubt for one minute that anyone who has a DS also has a GBA game they enjoy, or are currently playing. Oh. And there's the transfering-from-GBA-Pokemon-games to Diamond and Pearl...unless they'd just rely on the Wifi service after that(but if you haven't seen the Pokemon, you can't transfer it...)
And what about this? The point of the Pal Park would be completely ruined. And Pokemon Pearl/Diamond intended this- what a let-down for a child who starts of with this DS "Improved", and hopes to transfer his or her nice R/S/E/FR/LG Pokemon over to D/P... Seems like this will be a total waste of money. Brilliant Marketing Scheme? Yeah, right-- who would really buy this? Honestly?
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2007, 03:35:41 am » |
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*nodnods* PERSONALLY, I'm hoping this is just some idiot-American-analyst who just cites 'bigger is better' and is merely trying to gain popularity being the 'first' to point it out.
Which in a way, I do kind of like the idea of bigger screens, and if it DID mean a GB/GBC Virtual Console, I wouldn't mind the onboard storage....but axing the previous support isn't something I like to hear. It IS the reason I didn't pick up the GBM...I had some old GB/GBC games, and I didn't want to buy that AND buy a GBC too(although that's what I did when I traded in my GB-player for GCN). ....HOWEVER, I think the GBM was protected...I think the removable face-plate had a thick clear plastic shell that included covering the screen. *shrug*
Anyway yeh, although I only have one GBA game at the moment because I needed the instore credit one day....I DO still have Leaf-Green, and the Pal Park is what I'm hoping to use it for at SOME point. That's why I said 'mayyyybe they could count on you getting those pokemon from friends or Wifi Service', but it sure wouldn't help me.
Not to mention, like George Harrison mentioned just recently in response to all this, DS-lite *IS* still selling well. Very well in fact. Why would you compete with yourself like that? GBM shot them in the foot when the GBA SP was doing well, for that matter, DS was doing decently well by that time anyway(although it hadn't YET gotten into the Nintendogs phase in NA at least).
It's definately something I don't want, at the very least. If only because my DS-l has a tiiiiny hinge crack that hasn't gotten any worse, but it wouldn't be worth losing rumble pak(I like it for EBA) and especially GBA support.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2007, 04:35:39 am » |
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These kind of rumors float around all the time. Wasn't the new slimmer PSP supposed to be some "ZOMG" model with everything including lots of on-board flash memory for saving, faster load times, ect...
If a new DS does come out, and it does lack a GBA port... good luck is all I'll say. I love the fact that my DS can be prepped for a quick get up and go with 2 games. No GBA = No buy on my list.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2007, 10:01:18 pm » |
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*shrugs* Unless they make some super shiny special edition I wouldn't buy a new one. That's what I said when the DS Lite came out. Yes, it is an improvement and I'd like to have one, but I'm not all that inclined to because, well, I don't need it. The only thing that ever breaks that "I don't need" is cool special editions, like the Famicom GBM I bought. Did I need it? NO! But I bought it anyway because it was a neat item. I'm a bit of a collector, although HARDCORE amateur. Heh, I always joked that if they made some really cool special edition Phantom Hourglass Zelda DS Lite I'd buy it. The sad thing is I probably would have. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2007, 02:56:57 am » |
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I dunno. I still have my original DS, and you know when I'll replace it? When I can't use it anymore. Until then, I don't need to upgrade. This isn't like the GBA to the GBA SP where there were significant features. This is bigger screens and the REMOVAL of a feature.
In the meantime, it's all rumors: a crap shoot in my book. Nintendo upgrades - it's their marketing scheme, it works. I imagine a new model Wii coming out within the next two years (and I don't mean the DVD just in Japan, something to come to the Americas, as well).
Unless this is the Next Gen DS, which it won't be, because the DS works fine with the Wii now (see Pokemon Battle Revolution for details), then I'll let it pass by... unless there is some real significant improvement.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2007, 09:16:42 pm » |
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Kind of like: I HOPE NINTENDO RELEASES A NEW CONSOLE BY '08!!!
A lot of gamers have quit buying consoles and handhelds these days with the market continuously revamping and dishing out new ones like no tomorrow. I didn't buy a Wii, and I won't buy anything after a DS.
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2007, 01:11:10 am » |
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lol...then just don't buy it xD
I dunno. I still have my original DS, and you know when I'll replace it? When I can't use it anymore. Until then, I don't need to upgrade.
Yeah, I've never understood the "Oh no, they're making a new version, that's so horrible!" thing. The system you bought originally is still the same system now as it was then. It still plays the same games, it's not like the games are changing or anything (obviously something like onboard storage would probably involve some changes or new stuff involved, if something like that happened obviously that would be different. For the systems so far though, it's not like the games it plays or any of that stuff has changed or anything though). It's not like they're forcing people to buy it. I went straight from the regular GB, to a GBC, to a GBA, to a DS. Didn't buy a GBA SP, didn't buy a DS Lite, don't have any desire to buy either of them. I'm happy with my original GBA, I'm happy with my original DS, no reason to replace either of them. It's not like they stopped making "original GBA games" after the GBA SP came out, or stopped making "original DS games" after the DS Lite came out or something. It's not like they can come to my house and break my systems or something. I'm happy with them, so I didn't buy the new versions, didn't bother me at all.
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2007, 01:55:13 am » |
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@ Terrisus:
Good points there. I have been tempted to get a updated ds. But I am fine with the orginal ds for the most part unless my DS breaks. It would have to be much cheaper. The features are nice, but not necessary for me to have. If I can get a DS that can play all Gameboy systems then I would more consider it.
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