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« on: December 29, 2007, 09:10:08 pm »

My lite's left sholder button is fudged up. As in, I have to press very hard for it to work. Anyone have an idea what causes this? I'd open it up to see if maybe the spring under there is out of place but...I'd rather ask if anyone's had this problem before. If anything...anyone know how much this would cost? I'm thinking around 40 bucks. I'd rather try fixing it myself for that price though xD
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 10:20:25 pm »

as far as i've seen, the ds isn't all that hard to take apart. you will, however, need nintendo's proprietary tri-wing screwdriver, else you'll have a hell of a time getting into it.
it's probably just as you say the spring's mis-aligned, not causing the button to spring back up right, or that the spring's snapped for whatever reason.
if you manage to get hold of one of these screwdrivers, and decide to take apart your ds to attempt to fix it, be very careful of the lcd connectors, and cables. if these become misaligned, disconnected or damaged in any way, you can say bye bye to your ds, and probably another 100 bucks to buy a new one. not that i'm trying to scare you off doing it or anything, just a forewarning to be careful of the lcd's connections. granted you probably won't need to take the lcd's off the chassis to get to the shoulder buttons, but it's also a just-incase.
also, there's about 3 screws hidden behind the battery compartment. i can't remember if it was the ds they were talking about, but there's something like 25 screws holding that thing together. may have been the wii though. not sure.
good luck if you decide to try it though =)
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 12:11:20 am »

prolly was the wii.

I know that to change the case for the wii it's a helluva job than just to get to the disc drive. For the disc drive there are tons of screws like...yeah, about 20.

Hmm...I'll have to look for a pdf or something. I was just wondering if any of you have attempted this. Cause, with the ds, as you said, you have these cables connecting each screen. although a torn ribbon cable wouldn't scare me, but...eh, I just don't want to jack it up inside. I may try and post back. thx.

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 01:07:35 am »

here's something which may help you disassemble it...
http://uk.gizmodo.com/2006/11/03/nintendo_ds_lite_totally_disas.html

it seems, to get to the shoulder buttons (and the mechanism), you only have to take off the back cover, which has nothing attached to it. the motherboard is screwed to the side that the lcd's on (the front, basically).
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 01:18:39 am »

Pix:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/xiphoidsteel/Picture003-3.jpg

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hmm...turns out there is no spring. what makes it "spring" is inside that little black box underneath the shoulder at either side. Neither side is any springier than the other. the only thing I notice is that the right side (L button) where the metal rod is, there's a huge gap between where it is contained. so it makes the rod looser, meaning more freedom to move, thus, that coiled "spring" (that looks like an alpha or omega) gets out of the plastic boundary. So, when I press it at the very side of the shoulder, it's no wonder it gets out of place, cause there's nothing to stop it.

But, from this site:

http://www.modd3d.com/articles/item/overclock-your-nintendo-ds-lite

the crack is there, so i dunno wudufu the ds is being gai. *sigh*
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 01:43:45 am »

lol @ that article. overclocking the ds. one question that never got answered there though, and the one i really wanna know the answer to, if you overclock your ds to 1.8x, what happens in multiplayer mode? lmao

as for the springs. test the buttons themselves (use a small flatblade screwdriver and see if they're springy enough as well). failing that, when re-assembling, just bend the wings on the springs in (or out) slightly more, so when you reposition the wings, it should have a slight more of a "push" on the button, if you know what i mean.
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2007, 02:17:44 am »

Sweet, good as new.

You know those alpha shaped springs in the pic? that coil around then out? Well. One of the springs somehow got loose from under the shoulder button. See picture 6. That little metal spring is not supposed to be jutting out like that, it's supposed to be tucked under the shoulder button. When it is jutting out like that, when I put the case together, the case squished the spring and locks it down, so the spring goes on lock down and so does everything else.

Ha, w/e, this was fun. thx.

About the article, xD. LOL, I have no idea wut actually happens in multiplayer mode if you play with someone who isn't overclocked. My guess would be, you get speed hax

Ha, I might do this down the road, LMAO at the reason for overclocking ds:

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When you speed up or slow down the clock, the game speeds up or slows down. This is great for making your games harder or easier. It's also useful for squeezing some extra clock cycles out of the hardware so you can make more powerful homebrew apps.

Have to agree with the homebrew apps, maybe get the opera browser running smoothly?

But holy shizzle, I think the question anyone asks themselves with this is: Does it work on wifi?  Snaking aint got nothing on an overclocked nds.

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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2007, 11:36:42 am »

probably helps with the rendering on opera. i'm not sure why you'd use the ds to browse the internet though, much like why you'd use the wii to do the same thing, since there's a perfectly good pc in the house that can do a better job on a bigger, finer resolution screen.
that aside though, i am gonna get the opera browser on my wii, and attempt to get cuccoscratch working correctly on it. it'll just be a gimick more than anything else, but at least we can then say our forum skin is wii compatible lol
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