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« on: February 11, 2008, 09:03:33 pm »

I've got this idea for a Pokemon League, complete with Gym Leaders and Elite Four. The objective is for participating trainers to fight these leaders over Wifi to earn badges and stuff. At first, I might have Gym Leaders on a volunteer basis, but I was also thinking tryouts. Gym Leaders MUST ONLY HAVE ONE TYPE OF POKEMON ON THEIR TEAM.

The big issue I have here is EV training. Of course I don't have a full EV trained team, but since I made this thing I'm gonna be a Gym Leader. There are other people on this forum who don't EV train either. And some people who'd want to play don't EV train as well. I'd like to be able to avoid situations where either a trainer will never be able to win a badge or a Gym Leader's going to be constantly pwned so hard they can't even launch a single attack (that causes them to lose respect in the trainer's eyes, and what's a leader without respect?) The point of the Gym Leader/E4 is to be a good battler. If a trainer can't beat them, they should be able to improve and come back, just like in every Pokemon game.

My idea to get around it is to impose level restrictions. You start out with low level Pokemon (I could even have it set up so trainers get a free baby starter from someone involved in this League), and raise them up in levels. Gym Leaders have Pokemon teams at certain levels, and trainers are not allowed to progress further in their levels untill they've earned the appropriate badge.

Sample level limits:

1st leader: 10-15
2nd leader: 15-20
3rd leader: 20-25
4th leader: 25-30
5th leader: 30-35
6th leader: 35-40
7th leader: 40-45
8th leader: 45-50

The Elite Four can use anything in the 50-60 range, with lower E4 members having the lower levels.

Though of course, the simple fact that Gym Leaders are going to be using only one type would put them at a disadvantage.

I also don't know where to host this... here, nsider2, or an independent free forum.


Suggestions? Ideas? Anyone interested? Alot of people sounded interested in the shoutbox.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 07:05:41 pm »

I can't wifi on my ds. Just my wii. Maybe if I got Battle Revolution I could join.
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You could do this on shoddy battle. (www.shoddybattle.com) For those of you who don't know you make a team and upgrade it all you want. We can do no EVs or EV trained. You adjust EVERYTHING you want. All for free. Check it out.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2008, 09:15:11 pm »

Yeah, if your going to hold a tournament like this, it'll have to be on Shoddy.  Most people wouldn't even bother with those level caps.  In Shoddy, all Pokemon are level 100 by default, so things should be a little more fair.  You can also set their EV's, so it takes alot less time to get a team.  I doubt much of Nsider2/BF.com will be interested though...
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2008, 09:20:45 pm »

This sounds really interesting! Would this be only for the DS or Wii or Shoddy, or would you do a combo? I only have the handheld versions. Also, would you have people start out with a brand new team? (Almost done with questions. ) Just an idea, but would you only have 1 Champion slot? I would start small with something like this. If it gets big enough you might want to set up your own forums for it. Last thing, would this have rules like, "No ubers" and stuff like that? The EV traing kinda raises some more questions. IMHO, I would start out with no EV training. Once it gets established you might want to get rid of that rule.

So, those are my thoughts and questions. I hope you can get this up and running!
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 10:31:53 pm »

Well, it depends on where you *hold* the tournament, but I still say I'd make them all level 50 or all lvl 100 req. Reason being, in the game- yes it makes sense that the levels coincide with your progress in the game. Here though, you have a team you plan on taking with you to various gyms. Your pokemon are typically around the lvl 50 mark. Battles done on ds wifi or PBR are more easily done and kept standard if you use the 50 or 100 all settings.

My opinion, of course.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 12:16:46 am »

Well, for the masses who have all kinds of Pokemon teams, they could easily afford to just create a team that's themed and leveled towards whatever they need..

But again yeah, it's more or less 'us' we're talking about, so any sort of league-challengers would probably have Pokemon at least at level 40(I say 40 because I'm still wayyyyy behind in my Pokemon ;_; ).

I still think it's a pretty cool concept.  It's just hard to get going because even if you keep the idea of them being 'themed', all that means is that once the challenger finds out what the theme is, they'll more or less cruise through the "gym leader's" Pokemon, unless they just throw in that extra 'tricky' guy in at the end.  *shrug*


It'd be nice if Nintendo had made this a feature as a part of the game, tho'.  Having an endless supply of fresh gyms, and especially, being able to create and host/hold your own....that would have been awesome if it was already in-game.  There's just too much involved tho'.....oh well.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2008, 01:41:48 am »

Here is an example: 

On Shoddy Battle all pokes are lv. 100. Levels are taken care of.
On Shoddy Battle all EVs and IVs can be set on your own. EVs and IVs are taken care of.
Then you just pick your pokes and their moves and you have yourself a team. Everything taken care of.

Now we just set up battles and times here and we got a league. We can keep track and all that here and JUST do the battling there. It will be SO SO SO simple. And you can have more than one team too. So you can make teams of different types as you climb the ranks.

A team example would be:

Flying Gym:
Skarmory
Salamence
Gliscor
Togekiss
Jumpluff (haha I just threw this in here bc it IS part flying)
Espeon (the "WTF is this doing on a flying team" that everyone should be aloud to have. and I wouldn't have it any other way *hugs his espeon*) [Think of medicham on the ice gym leaders team]
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2008, 04:14:54 am »

If we do this on Shoddy, I wouldn't mind being a Gym leader or Elite Four member. Just so long as I was forced to stick to a theme, I could care less. I want to do either ghost or Dragon.
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2008, 02:55:25 am »

calls dibs to flying or pshchic theme! (or water)
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2008, 04:29:31 pm »

Lol you call dibs on 3? Nononono.

Birdie or I should have flying. Logically. Come now

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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2008, 05:54:36 pm »

This sounds like a fun idea.  I would play it you held it on D/P or PBR, but I would NOT if it was on Shoddy.  I do have a few ideas though.

1.  All pokemon should be set to level 50 or 100.  It doesn't really matter, but the level needs to be the same (and since D/P and PBR have built in functions to do this, it is easy).

2.  Instead of staggering the level to show difficulty, use EV training.  Since some people do not want to, or will not EV train their pokemon, have them be the "easier" gym leaders, no offense intended to them.  The players that do EV train can be the "harder" gym leaders, or Elite Four.  I put easier and harder in quotes because the actual pokemon being used will be weaker or tougher, it does not mean the user of these pokemon is any good at the game.

3.  Gym leaders should be allowed one pokemon that is not of their gym's type.  This will help with their type weakness and allow for a more balanced match.  I would also recommend that each gym leader should be force to use one pokemon that is just the type of their gym, not a dual type.

4.  As an off the wall idea, the E4 should have some sort of theme too, just not based on type.  They would use a weather team, a "fast" team, a trick room team, etc.  I mean, the point of doing this is to be different than just standard battles, so I think making these themed would be fun.  The pokemon champion would be a normal player who has beaten all of the gym leaders/E4.

If this is held on an actual pokemon game (D/P, PRB), I'd love to be a gym leader or an E4.  I'd like Water or Dark if I were to be a gym leader.  If E4, I have a Sandstorm team and an all sweeper team.  I'm also working on an immunity to ground attacks team.

Either way, good luck!
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2008, 09:58:20 pm »

I think it'd be awesome even if all we did was draw or at least design this stuff out, what our gym-leader-selves would look like, or how our gyms would be designed(whether anime-esque(more realistic and themed) or game-esque(with traps/doors/mechanics)).  Course if left unchecked we'd all be decked out in super awesome junk, but still, just as a thought it'd be neat to see.  And of course if we were able to arrange all of that, that'd be cool too...

I don't EV train, so I'd definately take the lesser roles.  If I actually went through with this, I'd probably end up being Fire, or maybe a Fire-combined-with-another-trait sort of gym-leader I guess.  And then all of my subordinates would be ... probably little girls with Pokemon stronger than mine.  ;_;  Oh wells..
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 02:46:44 am »

I'd participate in this for shoddy or wi-fi for whatever would give me the most options for team building :3.  My pokemon inventory is still kinda limited.

I like the idea of themed gyms and the difficulty being dependent on EV's.  Still, I don't think the gyms should be stuck with all of one type.  They could be based on the move types (like they are in D/P), strategy or something else like that.  This should be fun.


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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 06:05:23 am »

I'm interested but admittedly busy/lazy. <_<

I don't EV train but I'd have no problem being a low level gym leader if you need someone to fill a role.
 
Before this idea loses momentum, how would you feel about just setting up just a few gym leaders, K-star? Some is better than nothing, even if it's not the standard full 8. And once you have the foundation in for this, then you can add more leaders.
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2008, 04:42:02 pm »

Mban, Blaeu, Hen, Anak, Feu, Kstar, Magnus-- looks like we only need one more person. Then we'll need to advertise here & battle-frontier.

Possibly other sites, but since we're holding it here (are we??) they'd have to register here. Most bf'ers that would participate are already registered here.
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